The Euston Group: The neocons thirty years ago?
Recently, my mind has (tragically) been occupied with the neocons. More specifically, I mean their foreign policy, and its relationship to the pro-Iraq War section of the British left.
There is a section of the British left in favour of an interventionist foreign policy. Given the outpour of overwhelming anger at this group from the outraged anti-war left (“How dare anyone disagree with us!”), it’d be hard to blame anyone for not knowing it. But they’re the people behind the Euston Manifesto, who wanted
What do they want? In their own words a, “reconfiguration of progressive opinion,” to what they perceive of as a more moral stance, especially in foreign policy. They’re pro-democracy, pro-human rights and pro-freedom. And they want to see this everywhere. Perhaps the Eustonians most distinctive commitment is a total opposition to tyranny across the globe – the cause of their international interventionism.
Essentially, the origins of the Eustononians were almost in the bad behaviour of the anti-war left. Disgusted at the stark apologism of RESPECT and other parts of the anti-war movement, they felt the need to take a stand and mark out the principles they felt the left has lost. It’s often hard to blame them. The behaviour of the anti-war movement has all too often been questionable. I find it hard to be comfortable with the elements in it that are quite happy to declare the UK a police state while denying that Saddam Hussein was actually a dictator. Jan Sloboda, I’m happy with; George Galloway, not at all.
So I can sympathise with the Eustonians, up to a point. They clearly want to do some good. Moreover, they’re certainly preferable to much the liberal-left these days, with its Michael Moore-esque fixation on eternal whinging. Often, the strongest argument of the pro-war left is that it’s all very well to moan about sanctions or a war to topple a tyrant as immoral, but what else is there to do? You’ve got the choice of denying that a dictator is a dictator (which is wrong), or doing nothing and practically supporting the dictator (which is also wrong). Take your pick.
No, I wouldn’t want to either.
When I disagree with the Euston Group, it’s usually over practise, not principle. In simple terms, I don’t believe it’s possible to import democracy on the barrel of a gun. War unquestionably brings out the worst in humanity. The senseless slaughter of man against man reveals a bestial, irrational side perfectly at home with narrow tribalism. How couldn’t it? When two groups of men are trying to rip bloody chunks out of each other, the, “us and them,” mentality must solidify pretty fast. Add to this the differences of language, culture and, most visibly, skin, that are present in situations like
Robespierre may not have known much (of use, at least; I’m sure he was very bright), but he was spot on when he said, “No one loves armed missionaries; the first lesson of nature and prudence is to repulse them as enemies.” (Ironic, given that that’s what he tried to do to the French…) No-one loves armed missionaries. You cannot force someone to be free. It must come from within – the people must want it. Support that revolution if you will. Seek it. But it must be perceived as from the people, not from abroad. Otherwise, it will fail – as has done from 1792, right through until 2002.
But, I can sympathise with that the Euston Group want, at least. They want democracy. They want freedom. They want to help people. How can I oppose that and keep a conscience?
Now let’s have a look at the neocons. They say they want freedom and democracy too. Do they? No. They act in
“But look at our commitment to freedom around the globe!” They cry. “We love freedom and hate tyranny. We saved
And, of course, superficially they’re right. They have, theoretically, been some of the strongest supporters of democracy around the globe in the last few decades.
That’s theoretically, though. Look a little closer, and you’ll realise that the neocons haven’t pursued a moral foreign policy since the days of the democratic revolutionaries in the early eighties. Even before Reagan was out, the old realpolitik of Kissinger that neoconservatism began as a reaction to was back in – Nicaraguan nukes, anyone?
So how can we go about exploding the myth that neoconservatism is freedom’s best friend? We’ll start with the wars they have fought.
And the free-market? The money, my friend, the money.
Of course, the neoliberal officials sent to sort out the country thought the best way to do so would be to cut back the government as far as possible. This process, known as de-Ba’athisation, went a very long way. As well as very legitimately cutting out the totalitarian regime and the Ba’ath party almost totally, it virtually removed the government from every aspect of life in
What does this tell us, though? Ultimately, that the greatest concern of the neocons when they went into
Now, let’s look at the wars that the neocons haven’t fought, and the fusses they haven’t made.
And yet the neocons aren’t calling for him to go.
And yet, the neocons aren’t calling for him to go. There is some rhetorical opposition, yes – but on neo-Star Wars, not the brutal silencing of opposition.
So why don’t the neocons get their act together and start complaining here? What makes these attacks on democracy so different to
The answers to these questions could be long and complicated. But one thing is notably true in both cases, and many similar cases.
But, what about
That’s ultimately the difference between the neocons and the pro-war left, on the foreign policy front. The neocons now want to serve
That’s what the neocons wanted thirty years ago, when they were the democratic revolutionaries. That’s where the Eustonians should stay – on the principled, truly democratic side. And to stay there, they mustn’t engage in the sort of realpolitik that got the neocons where they are now by allying with the neocons. They’ve as much business doing that as the anti-war left has grouping with Islamic fundamentalists – none whatsoever. The enemy of their enemy is not their friend.


I think that the error you make in this essay, Douglas, is to assume that every force within the White House which advocated war with Iraq was Neo-Conservative. This would require Dick Cheney, one of the driving forces behind the invasion, to be a neo-conservative.
He isn’t.
As you can see in this video: http://youtube.com/watch?v=6BEsZMvrq-I Cheney seems to lack any ideology at all and instead is entirely opportunistic. Especially given his preference for Iraq to be placed under a new dictator after Saddam, rather than even given elections, it is quite clear that the title of “Democratic Revolutionary” is not fitting for him.
“Ruthless Amoral Hypocrite” seems more suitable.
On the contrary, I don’t assume that at all. But I would challenge you to find me a majority of neocons who were opposed to the majority of actions taken over Iraq, particularly in the period following the immediate invasion. I suspect it may be difficult.
My God! You really are a bunch of pseudo-intellectual pretentious prats aren’t you? Get a life between you FFS!
My God! You really do waste your time posting useless nonsense on websites you claim to have no regard for don’t you? Get a life for yourself FFS!
I am afraid that I do not quite understand the challenge.
Are you suggesting that I find you examples of Neo-Conservatives who argue that the Baath Party should have remained in place? Because these certainly exist, indeed they are trying to defend being so horrifically wrong so they will grasp onto anything they can.
I feel that the argument put forward by Matthew Parris is still sound, though: the Baath Party was, above all, autocratic. It could be run by a lone madman at the top who would rule all those below, his legitimacy never questioned, his orders never disobeyed and all dissenters executed.
To imagine that this could function as a transitionary force between a totalitarian and democratic Iraq is a curious fantasy and the total lack of demand for a revival of the party edifice suggests that those involved were primarily kept in check from abandoning ship by the risk of a bullet finding their skull.
A perfectly reasonable fear, I think you will agree. But to imagine that keeping such an institution intact would have benefited the country is a proposition I find rather lacking in evidence. To imagine that the sole cause for its destruction was to ease the implementation of free market capitalism is pure foolishness.
Indeed, I instead follow the theory of Cambridge fellow Professor Gamble, who argued that Blair’s efforts to influence the White House plan were doomed to failure from the outset as there was no plan. Cheney and Rumsfeld {both figures whose presence in Washington predated that of the Democratic Revolutionaries} had literally no idea what they were going to do with Iraq and this absence of any inspiration over its future was what led to the void.
They were not scheming free-marketeer idealogues {just look at Bush’s fiscal policy for evidence of that!} but instead conservatives working from instinct in unfamiliar territory who created a vacuum of government by default.
Hmm. I think I’ll concede the queried detail, as you know more on the neocons than me, I suspect, especially in detail. That said, even if my assessment of the neoconservatives is somewhat flawed, the main thrust of the piece remains fairly correct, I feel - that the neocons and the pro-war left are in reality very different entities, and the latter should be very careful of getting too close to the former.
…as you know more on the neocons than me, I suspect, especially in detail…
No kidding
I stumbled accross the blog today.
It took very little time to ascertain the pretentiousness of it.
Normally I wouldn’t bother posting…but hoped you might re-assess your pretetiousness and my coments wouldn’t go wasted.
Then again I was probably being overly optimistic to think that you might be able to take the comments on board and grow into less pretentious ‘individuals’.
Vamp: Pretentious? Fuck off, you cunt.
Probably. You certainly didn’t help yourself by being insulting: change is rarely helped if people don’t like you. Luckily, I don’t think I’m being overly optimistic in hoping you won’t post here again, given your view of us.
Actually, I should probably make that slightly more clear. A slagging match in a comments thread will look untidy, I suspect, and is deeply undesirable. I’ll probably mark any more posts in the previous mould as spam. It’ll save time.
“Hmm. I think I’ll concede the queried detail, as you know more on the neocons than me, I suspect, especially in detail. That said, even if my assessment of the neoconservatives is somewhat flawed, the main thrust of the piece remains fairly correct, I feel - that the neocons and the pro-war left are in reality very different entities, and the latter should be very careful of getting too close to the former.”
For once I would actually recommend a Wikipedia article, certainly one of the better written ones out there: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neoconservatism
If you accept Irving Kristol’s understanding of Neoconservatism it would seem that you are entirely correct: whatever they originally were they have now come to embrace small government, low taxation and traditional moral values.
So certainly not all that similar to most of the anti-war left (surely pro-war? - Douglas), no.
For more on neo-conservatism I would actually suggest anything you can find in The Times’ online archive, either from Daniel Finkelstein as a proponent or Matthew Parris as a harsh, scathing and relentless opponent of their war-mongering, surprisingly unconservative proposals. The savaging the latter gives to the philosophy is often pure bliss and a true joy to behold while the former argues that it was only frustration with mainstream liberalism’s inertia to it being necessary.
I know that you at least have already read it, Douglas, but What’s Left? {by Nick Cohen} deals extensively with the relationship between Neo-Conservatism and the Left, I could not recommend more highly for those wishing to know more on this topic.